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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 9:48:45 GMT -6
I would like to implement a system that will create 2-4 supplemental rounds in the rookie draft. Teams that dont make playoffs would be eligible to earn these picks.
My original thought was to have it be based on the consolation playoff games. Since 6 teams dont make playoffs, my thought is to seed the 1st round of consolation games with 7v8, 9v10, 11v12. Winner of those 1st 3 games will receive supplemental picks #1-#3, based on Most Points scored for that round, in the 1st supplemental round, that will take place between rounds 2 and 3. Then, the 2nd round of consolation playoffs will be seeded based on Most Points Scored. Giving the 3 winners again, picks #1-#3 based on Most Points Scored in the 2nd supplemental round, which will take place between rounds 3 and 4. And then repeat again and the 3rd supplemental round will follow round 4 and end the draft.
Its simply a way to help lower end teams potential boost themselves a little faster, and it helps to keep people competitive through the playoffs, with a chance to win somrthing, despite missing out on a chance at the ship.
Thoughts, comments, and concerns are all welcomed and much appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 11:20:32 GMT -6
I dont like that very much. Most people on here want to play for the here and now and it takes someone like me for instance and kinda negates the work i have done collecting picks. It also lowers their value in my opinion. And while i agree about finding ways to make teams better, i also feel owners need to make their teams better by asking questions if they dont know or doing research. I didnt know anything about the draft systems or prospects but i asked alot of questions and have done alot of research and still dont know everything but i have a pretty good understanding now. It takes dedication! I feel like the best way to improve a bad team is the fa picks. This is just my opinion though, i dont want to devalue picks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 12:23:01 GMT -6
I agree with St. Louis here, but I can see the benefits of doing a supplemental draft. I just feel that is a little too much and it will de-value picks in trades. The easiest way to get more competitive is through the FA market. I like the idea of keeping people engaged by trying to keep everyone competitive. I would say if we went that way maybe have a 1 round competitive balance draft for all teams that didn't make the playoffs. They might could pick from any free agent, minor, or rookie who is not currently on a roster. Of course that would fall after the rookie and minor league draft, and before the free agent signing period(so only guys that are on the waiver wire, not upcoming free agents). Just some ideas off the top of my head.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 12:48:56 GMT -6
I dont like that very much. Most people on here want to play for the here and now and it takes someone like me for instance and kinda negates the work i have done collecting picks. It also lowers their value in my opinion. And while i agree about finding ways to make teams better, i also feel owners need to make their teams better by asking questions if they dont know or doing research. I didnt know anything about the draft systems or prospects but i asked alot of questions and have done alot of research and still dont know everything but i have a pretty good understanding now. It takes dedication! I feel like the best way to improve a bad team is the fa picks. This is just my opinion though, i dont want to devalue picks. i agree here , a good examplw is if i make a trade for a third round pick , it now has less value as the supplemental round pushes the pick back i lil and like was mentioned , the work and dedication of working thru the season should hold more value .... also , as a point of reference though , if u want to flip the draft order for the bottom 6 to reflect the consolation winner gets the 1st pick over all that would work , less incentive to tank so to speak ..... keeps a lil carrot for those in the bottom 6 to play for
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:08:52 GMT -6
That is a good idea!!!! Lets reward overall work! The consolation tourney for the #1 pick and so on i like that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:37:40 GMT -6
I like that too
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 14:46:10 GMT -6
Thats a good thought. But how will we go about giving those top 6 picks out? If you have the worst team and dont stand a chance in the consolation playoffs, i dont think you should auto fall to 6th because you literally cant win a game. In my opinion, there should be the 3 round consolation playoff with the bottom 6 teams, and its basically a chance for 1 team to vault the rest and get the #1 pick, not completely invert the order. I do understand the theory and logic behind completely flipping the bottom 6 to reward the teams that barely missed out, but not a fan of it. But i am all for the consolation bracket holding the reward that somebody outside of the worst team can earn the #1 pick. We will have to decide on a way to make that happen though. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 14:57:10 GMT -6
I say we leave it as is. If you want to do supplement picks then do it after the 4th round so almost like a 5th pick to help teams out that cant be traded or do like mlb if you lose a fa maybe than supplement picks in 3rd and 4th that are not tradeable. I do like the idea of the tourney to earn the #1 pick at the end of the season that way the worst team has something to play for! And then reverse order after that. Playoff fantasy may give regular season worst team a better chance realistically bc prospects our up from minors and certain teams are playing for different things. Thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 15:13:19 GMT -6
I do want to stress to owners some of this problem could be solved by not playing for the here and now only, and play for the here and future! Value your draft picks bc that is the future stars and your going to want them.
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 15:21:21 GMT -6
Yea i definitely agree with the last statement. My issue with people that play for the here and now is, the fear of them giving up all picks and prospects, having a bad season, losing interest and quitting. Then we have a gutter team that is hard to get an owner for. I dont believe we have anyonr even close to being in that boat currently, but it does happen.
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 15:25:25 GMT -6
I do also like the thought of the supplemental round being at the end. We could still use my original thought and have a supplemental round at the end of the minors draft. That would give those teams the oppurtunity of landing a minors guy NOT on a roster that could potentially come up the following season and have an immediate impact or become and immediate trade chip.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 15:29:36 GMT -6
I think that is the best option!
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 15:32:03 GMT -6
So here is my final thought for the rookie draft and a supplemental round.
In the consolation playoffs, the best record will receive/be awarded #1 pick in the draft. The rest will fall in line in inverted order based on FINAL REGULAR SEASON STANDINGS. If there is a tie for best record, it'll be MOST TOTAL POINTS SCORED in those 3 games.
Following that, i would like to see the winner of each game, so 3 games per round, 9 winners of the 9 total games between 3 rounds, will receive additional picks in the supplemental round which will be a seperate round directly following the minors draft, and those 9 picks will be in order based on points scored in the consolation playoff week you won the game. Does that make sense? I can elaborate further if i need.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 15:40:28 GMT -6
I vote yes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 15:41:03 GMT -6
But those picks need to be non-tradeable
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 15:43:51 GMT -6
Yes. Absolutely non tradeable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 16:06:13 GMT -6
I vote yes..... as long as the picks can't be traded
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Dec 21, 2016 17:39:12 GMT -6
So we have 3 people with this. Anyone else want to share there thoughts or opinions?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 20:19:23 GMT -6
yes i agree they arnt tradeable.
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