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Jan 8, 2018 16:55:45 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 16:55:45 GMT -6
Arizona recieves : prospect kolby allard- (atl-sp)
Kansas City recieves : 2018 rookie 1st round pick (tor) 2018 rookie 1st round pick (atl) 2018 rookie 4th round pick (ari)
by posting I accept , this has been a priority of mine to acquire allard as I am hoping he can be a top of the rotation pitcher , I have to give up two of the top 3 picks to do it but could well be worth it
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ARI-KC
Jan 8, 2018 20:44:26 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:44:26 GMT -6
I know kc has not accepted but this is a veto from me. This kid has not shown enough for all those top picks Veto
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Jan 9, 2018 8:57:39 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 9, 2018 8:57:39 GMT -6
KC needs to accept before i will place my vote.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:19:18 GMT -6
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 9, 2018 10:19:18 GMT -6
This trade has formatting errors also. There is a trade template that everyone needs to be following.
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Jan 9, 2018 10:19:49 GMT -6
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 9, 2018 10:19:49 GMT -6
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ARI-KC
Jan 9, 2018 11:17:36 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 11:17:36 GMT -6
Formating should be ok now
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Jan 10, 2018 11:33:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 11:33:28 GMT -6
approve. i love allard but couldnt turn down this trade.
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Jan 10, 2018 12:17:50 GMT -6
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 10, 2018 12:17:50 GMT -6
This trade is too lopsided. One team is receiving the #1 rookie pick and a 2nd top 3 for a very unproven prospect. While i see no collusion i cant pass this either.
Veto.
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Jan 10, 2018 16:00:05 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 16:00:05 GMT -6
Not nearly as lopsided as some trades i have seen
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ARI-KC
Jan 10, 2018 19:49:25 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 10, 2018 19:49:25 GMT -6
Kolby Allard was taken 15th overall 2 seasons ago (in this league). And is being traded for 2 of the top 3 and a pick in the late 30s-early 40s... This is extremely lopsided and whether there were more lopsided trades or not is irrelevant when discussing this trade.
Am i saying he should be traded for a 2nd rounder? No. But to be dealing 2 top 3 picks in a draft that allows someone to gain more of that potential for a pitcher that isn't even the top prospect OR pitching prospect on his team (Atlanta) isn't something im going to approve.
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Jan 10, 2018 20:08:00 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 20:08:00 GMT -6
Not only is allard the top pitching spec in Atlanta , he is number 22 in mlb top 100 and number 1 of the top 10 left handed pitching specs in mlb rankings
Kolby Allard | Rank: 2 (Preseason: 4) Team: Mississippi Braves (AA) ETA: 2018 Position: LHP Age: 20 DOB: 08/13/1997 Bats: L Throws: L Height: 6' 1" Weight: 190 lb. Drafted: 2015, 1st (14) - ATL Other Lists: Top 100 Prospects (#22), Top 10 LHP Prospects (#1)
These numbers are from mlb.com , I will try and rework the deal with KC so that it appears more fair ,
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ARI-KC
Jan 10, 2018 20:37:11 GMT -6
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 10, 2018 20:37:11 GMT -6
Its not vetoed yet. Colorado and boston still havent voted.
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Jan 10, 2018 21:08:35 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 21:08:35 GMT -6
Rework the trade period its lopsided Maybe a 1st rd, 3rd rd, 4th rd Then i would approve theres no use in arguing with the trc i live in atl i know the kids production and the trade needs to be reworked and i dont appreciate the trc being questioned sorry
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Jan 10, 2018 21:11:40 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 21:11:40 GMT -6
Like the post above says two other committee members still need to vote , period , if fully vetoed I will work with KC on the trade , period
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Jan 10, 2018 21:19:11 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 21:19:11 GMT -6
Sounds good and i hope it works out
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 20:06:09 GMT -6
Alright guys, I have tried to do some due diligence here and evaluate this trade from all angles. I really agree with what Minnesota and St Louis have said, this trade potentially is really skewed in KCs favor. But we are really discussing an unproven commodity and some picks that are going to involve kids with no professional experience. While we probably all believe otherwise, none of the pieces in this trade may ever play an inning of Major League Baseball. Also, KC is giving up a player that is closer (maybe years closer) to MLB ready which I think has pretty significant value.
At the end of the day, I really think there is no collusion here which is one of the main things I try to evaluate for. I don’t want to have to police bad decisions or judgement, just whether or not somebody is knowingly trying to get an unfair advantage on the rest of the league.
With all that said I approve on the basis of there is no clear collusion between the owners.
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Jan 14, 2018 12:35:20 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 12:35:20 GMT -6
Approve. Doesn’t seem to be collusion. It’s a lot for one unproven pitcher but picks are even more unproven at this point also. Either way I don’t see any signs of collusion to warrant a veto on my end
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Jan 15, 2018 17:57:33 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 15, 2018 17:57:33 GMT -6
At 2-2 we will need the rest of the league to vote on this. Check discussion for a final vote. If you were part of the original 4 you DO NOT VOTE.
Minnesota St. Louis Colorado Boston
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Jan 15, 2018 19:19:13 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 19:19:13 GMT -6
At 2-2 we will need the rest of the league to vote on this. Check discussion for a final vote. If you were part of the original 4 you DO NOT VOTE. Minnesota Kansas City Colorado Boston I believe St. Louis was one of the original voters in this , and since KC is involved he should not have a vote correct?
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Jan 15, 2018 19:21:21 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 15, 2018 19:21:21 GMT -6
I edited it.
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Jan 16, 2018 13:48:58 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 16, 2018 13:48:58 GMT -6
At 4-1 via the league and 6-3 overall, this trade is approved.
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Jan 28, 2018 12:24:27 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Twins on Jan 28, 2018 12:24:27 GMT -6
Sheets updated
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