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Post by Kansas City Royals on Feb 1, 2024 16:26:10 GMT -6
(All credit goes to Bradley for this idea) I propose that, after the 2024 season, the following changes be made to the Minor and Rookie Drafts going forward:
Minor Draft Rounds are Increased from 4 Rounds to 6 Rounds
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Rookie Draft Rounds are Decreased from 7 rounds to 5 Rounds
I believe that shifting the two rounds from the Rookie Draft to the Minors Draft will increase the all-around quality of each team's farm system and lower the risk of drafting a young player that has no experience and turns into a bust. We can debate on the quantity of the rounds being changed as well.
NOTE: THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE TRADE INVOLVING THE 2025 ROOKIE DRAFT BETWEEN THE ROUND 6/7 PICKS. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT MINNESOTA BE ALLOWED AN ADDITIONAL FINAL PICK IN THE 2025 ROOKIE DRAFT TO SUBPLIMENT HIS SIDE OF THE PAST TRADE MADE WITH ST. LOUIS
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Post by Philadelphia Phillies on Feb 1, 2024 16:42:34 GMT -6
I support this.
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Post by Chicago Cubs on Feb 1, 2024 16:46:06 GMT -6
I like it. I do think the minors draft is going to get watered down since we went to a longer rookie draft recently. Not sure if it’ll always be as deep as it has been recently
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Post by New York Yankees on Feb 1, 2024 17:01:16 GMT -6
I support this. Take rookie down to three rounds even. So six minors, three rookie.
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Feb 1, 2024 17:12:02 GMT -6
(All credit goes to Bradley for this idea) I propose that, after the 2024 season, the following changes be made to the Minor and Rookie Drafts going forward: Minor Draft Rounds are Increased from 5 Rounds to 7 Roundsand Rookie Draft Rounds are Decreased from 7 rounds to 5 RoundsI believe that shifting the two rounds from the Rookie Draft to the Minors Draft will increase the all-around quality of each team's farm system and lower the risk of drafting a young player that has no experience and turns into a bust. We can debate on the quantity of the rounds being changed as well. NOTE: THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE TRADE INVOLVING THE 2025 ROOKIE DRAFT BETWEEN THE ROUND 6/7 PICKS. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT MINNESOTA BE ALLOWED AN ADDITIONAL FINAL PICK IN THE 2025 ROOKIE DRAFT TO SUBPLIMENT HIS SIDE OF THE PAST TRADE MADE WITH ST. LOUISWhile I'm not necessarily anti this idea, I think 6 rounds of the minors draft in a few short years would eliminate all possible talent and eventually turn into a draft of essentially remaining rookies that we didn't draft and international signings. But that's just a guess, I really don't know. We'd be talking around 100 players from minor league systems being added yearly. Granted, that's already where we are with the current system, the current system does allow for more misses but that does inevitably ensure that there will be good players available in the minors draft. IDK which wed prefer. I guess what im saying is, I think more minors picks will, in short time, devalue that draft entirely. Quick math shows that 14 teams, if they all had a full 60 man (not even including the 14 man), is close to 900 players. And when I google how many MiLB players are in the minors, the quick answer I get is 900. (I challenge Brad to even reach 30 prospects LMAO) Just food for thought.
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Post by New York Yankees on Feb 1, 2024 17:30:09 GMT -6
I would fully support way less picks in both drafts. I do agree with the sentiment that there should be more picks in the minors draft vs the rookie.
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Post by Chicago Cubs on Feb 1, 2024 17:48:53 GMT -6
That’s a good point Taylor! I didn’t think about how quickly the entire minor league system would be owned. Wouldn’t we probably run into the same problem with the current system since it’s the same amount of picks every year.
What if we drop the rookie to 3 or 4 rounds? After the top 50 rookies, it gets to be a real crap shoot.
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Feb 1, 2024 18:00:01 GMT -6
That’s a good point Taylor! I didn’t think about how quickly the entire minor league system would be owned. Wouldn’t we probably run into the same problem with the current system since it’s the same amount of picks every year. What if we drop the rookie to 3 or 4 rounds? After the top 50 rookies, it gets to be a real crap shoot. The point of lengthening the rookie draft to 7 was pretty much to start getting rosters full and everyone loves a good draft LMAO. If we want to shorten it, that's fine, depending on a vote of course. But that was really the point of going to 7 rounds
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Post by Chicago Cubs on Feb 1, 2024 19:03:49 GMT -6
Fair enough. You changed my mind Taylor. I’m fine leaving it as is so that the minors draft always has interesting names
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Post by Cincinnati Reds on Feb 1, 2024 22:05:48 GMT -6
Rosters will get full either way, it’s the same amount of picks just different amounts. My thought was in the rookie draft we have a ton of guys there is hardly any info about except for maybe 20 guys. If we shorten that and lengthen the minors draft it will give us more info on some of the other guys. It won’t water down the minors draft that much if at all because there would be guys from the rookie draft that wasn’t taken🤷♂️
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Feb 1, 2024 22:21:08 GMT -6
Exactly, same number of players but the lower end guys we currently have on our lists we actually have lower level stats and video so the bottom talent gets a little better for everyone. I don’t think it pulls the quality of the top prospects down so much as raise the bottom prospects talent
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Feb 1, 2024 22:23:26 GMT -6
Most of the guys we drafted this week are lower draft picks too. Less rookie picks from the 3rd/4th rounds of the mlb draft means even more talent to fight over in the minors draft after we see they can actually hack it
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Post by Milwaukee Brewers on Feb 2, 2024 7:59:36 GMT -6
Good morning gents, to me it's kind of 6 of one, half a dozen of the other here. I see both sides, and we all know I love a good minors draft as much as the next person. I ran some quick numbers this morning and we are currently sitting with 8 teams over the 50% filled in the minors, with 5 of those over the 40 player threshold, myself included. On the 14-man roster side, we have only 5 teams above 50% with 3 of those having at least 10/14 slots filled. I guess where I am going with this is that we have teams who love prospects, and other teams who may use their minor system to leverage a different strategy (Trades, money, etc). We're all different in how we manage our squads.
Either way you look at it, with the expansion to 14 teams, additional rounds in each draft, the talent pool will continue to drop compared to what we were used to. However, what we may start seeing in the future is that our systems will stabilize, the annual talent pool for each will stabilize (we may only get 1 top 100 guy, a couple on the cusp and a few flyers). No matter how we look at it, 90-95% of prospects never actually hit their ceiling and if we get lucky we hit a lotto ticket, but for the most part we get steady league average players.
I think the only question here really as the total number of rounds do not change is when do we get access to the most information on players. It was noted above that for the July draft the guy drafted in the first few rounds receive most of the coverage. we do 7 rounds @14/round = 98 picks which is in essence the first 3 rounds when we include compensation. for the minors draft currently which allows for a much broader spectrum of players we draft 4 rounds @14/rd = 56, plus what is chosen for compensation picks from our league, which this year was 6 for a total of 62 picks. I would venture to say that we'd all have more information at our finger tips and more prep time for the minors draft.
July Draft - North American players only. Most sites will provide us with the top 500 as information for us to go off
Minors Draft - North American guys who are later round guys, or who blossom later. We also have the International players from current year, as well as years prior. Those who get drafted at 16 and sign for $50k are never on our lists the year of, but some of those guys out perform the guys who sign for millions in the long term.
I would say the pool for the minors draft is exponentially larger than the July draft as there is a much larger pool of players to choose from.
Long story short, I would support the reduction of the July draft to 5 rounds (70 picks, plus compensation rounds), while increasing the Minors draft to 6 (84 picks + compensation Rounds). I think this also gives us time in the offseason to evaluate our own prospects and drop the ones who are now irrelevant, or whose stars have faded.
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Post by Atlanta Braves on Feb 3, 2024 21:57:50 GMT -6
I’m not sure i like this idea I don’t think I’d like to see the minor system depleted. After a couple of years we will be digging real deep in the minor system to find players.
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Post by Minnesota Twins on Feb 10, 2024 1:13:37 GMT -6
We only had 8 of 14 comment on this topic. Not a fan of that but can't force everyone to comment... Or can we?
Anyways, I'm gonna throw it to a vote. We'll see what happens.
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